tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post985564805617683508..comments2024-01-06T07:18:43.593-08:00Comments on The Battle of California: Ducks Gameday—The politics of power playsJames Mirtlehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11221488913251638181noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-20714477001517445292008-03-06T17:44:00.000-08:002008-03-06T17:44:00.000-08:00I can't imagine it was easier to paint ref stripes...<I>I can't imagine it was easier to paint ref stripes on a Hilary/Obama photo than to cut-and-paste their heads onto a photo of two refs...</I><BR/><BR/>You're probably right, but I got home extremely underslept and slightly drunk last night, so I'm pretty happy with the result.<BR/><BR/>It's not so bad drawing referee uniforms, it turns out.<BR/><BR/>a) White out their current clothing.<BR/>b) Draw some stripe outlines.<BR/>c) Color in every other stripe black.<BR/>d) Add some orange on the arms.<BR/>e) Throw on a NHL logo.<BR/><BR/>Of course, then I spent quite a while writing this post--turns out I had quite a lot to say, and it was touchy enough that I had to say it right.<BR/><BR/>Man, I am bushed today.Earl Sleekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15843720035500316419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-18155561507497853612008-03-06T17:11:00.000-08:002008-03-06T17:11:00.000-08:00the Ducks have taught me [this] lesson: it's not g...<I>the Ducks have taught me [this] lesson: it's not good to be dependent on a referee in order to win games.</I><BR/>WOOT, man... just woot!Itlanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03756173447387218750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-62432586500020824432008-03-06T11:44:00.000-08:002008-03-06T11:44:00.000-08:00I can't imagine it was easier to paint ref stripes...I can't imagine it was easier to paint ref stripes on a Hilary/Obama photo than to cut-and-paste their heads onto a photo of two refs...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-63902017141240826312008-03-06T10:27:00.000-08:002008-03-06T10:27:00.000-08:00I think both teams come in with expectations about...<I>I think both teams come in with expectations about refereeing, and generally the referees end up complying.</I><BR/><BR/>Right. I'm not pinning it only on the refs, because clearly, in hockey, there's a lot of pressure from players, coaches, officials, and fans to just let the boys play, regardless of whether that is actually a good thing.<BR/><BR/>As for post-trap, maybe I should have used scare quotes around it, but I think that the type of game now played is quite different than the NJ Devils (among many others) circa 1995.<BR/><BR/>Put another way, would Marc Savard be putting up 90 point seasons in 1995? Closer to home, how about Cammalleri or Selanne's return to form? There's more room for the skilled guys, and there's a place for the smaller skill player now that there wasn't ten years ago. But I also agree that the trap isn't completely dead.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-52553348471921221592008-03-06T10:14:00.000-08:002008-03-06T10:14:00.000-08:00there well oiled machines rudy..and know what to d...there well oiled machines rudy..and know what to do to not take penalties...people like perry getzlaf...hate playing defense as opposed to the 3rd line so they get lazy and hook...<BR/><BR/>i agree with kms..dont change anything..keep running hte goalie..giving face washes...etc....just fuckin shoot and stop trying to be too fancy with the puck in the offensive zoneAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-55747418449493324542008-03-06T09:39:00.000-08:002008-03-06T09:39:00.000-08:00One interesting thing about the Ducks is that thei...One interesting thing about the Ducks is that their third line barely takes any penalties at all. Pahlsson and R. Niedermayer don't get a lot of penalties and Moen's penalties tend to be fights. This seems unusual to me, since they're often playing against the most talented liine on the other team. Is this because their hooks go uncalled or because they just don't take penalties? I don't know. <BR/><BR/>Great post, Earl.RudyKellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05935847996131016457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-56178114923479013982008-03-06T09:38:00.000-08:002008-03-06T09:38:00.000-08:00Yeah, I'll agree with you in spirit, Ian, but I do...Yeah, I'll agree with you in spirit, Ian, but I don't blame the refs or the league. I think both teams come in with expectations about refereeing, and generally the referees end up complying. If the question is "who's to blame for today's refereeing", I don't think you have to look past the expectations of both bench coaches, each trying to get their share of the PP action.<BR/><BR/>It's easy enough to demand more consistency in the media or whatever, but in reality I don't know if that's what teams want at all. I think they'd rather rely on the notion that both teams would approach the game the same way, and I think on some level everyone wants and expects equivalent power play time for each side.<BR/><BR/><I>In the post-trap NHL</I><BR/><BR/>This phrase made me laugh. I'm not the best on what technically is the trap and what is not, but I don't think we're in any meaningful post-trap NHL. Sure the mechanics have probably changed to some degree, but the underlying strategy is still the same. In a lot of ways, I think today's NHL is as trapping as ever, partially because the new rules have demanded a higher attention to defensive preparation than ever before.Earl Sleekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15843720035500316419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-68669800788530025622008-03-06T09:37:00.000-08:002008-03-06T09:37:00.000-08:00Earl, great post. The Ducks are capable of playin...Earl, great post. The Ducks are capable of playing a physical game that costs them to be on the PK a lot because they have the best defense in the league. Unless you're a Ducks fan that doesn't like fighting I don't see why you would want the Ducks to clean up their act.<BR/><BR/>As for the Colorado game tonight...it would have been Ducks 3, Avs 4, goals by Smyth (x2), Svatos, and Stastny. You can thank the Kings for the win ;)Mariehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07631663414267137790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-6432498618526105722008-03-06T09:27:00.000-08:002008-03-06T09:27:00.000-08:00You know, I think the problem here is that the ref...You know, I think the problem here is that the referees or the NHL or both agree on the principle that the ref shouldn't decide the game. I think that's BS. The ref calling penalties is not the problem. The players doing actions that warrant penalties is the problem. It's a weird idea, that enforcing the rules is somehow unfairly meddling with the game.<BR/><BR/>In the post-trap NHL, the Ducks have learned that active penalties (high hits, slashing, cross-checking) don't get called as often as passive ones (hooking, holding, tripping). The best part is that Brian Burke used to be the NHL's vice-principal of discipline, right?<BR/><BR/>Simply put, all this stuff about "nobody knows what a penalty is anymore" is caused by the refs not calling the game consistently, 1st period to overtime, October to May. If they did, the players would adjust their play, and even if you had a few games where it's nothing but power plays for one team, those would fade away as the teams adjust.<BR/><BR/>By "not wanting to decide the game," the refs ultimately still do, just like back in the clutch 'n grab 90s.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-74332227619029008232008-03-06T09:06:00.000-08:002008-03-06T09:06:00.000-08:00doug weight is not the answer on the 2nd line by t...<I>doug weight is not the answer on the 2nd line by the way...id prefer marchant in that role</I><BR/><BR/>Can't say too much on Weight yet; he came back in the game I was at and I didn't get to watch last night. I'd say give him a few games, though--on paper, he's the logical choice, and there's no other line really where I think he fits.<BR/><BR/>If it turns sour, though, Marchant would work (let Carter run the 4th line), or maybe more time for Ebbett. He seemed to do all right riding Selanne's coattails.<BR/><BR/><I>As for the Ottawa stuff, they seem to be very upset that we hit thier D every time we entered thier zone, I thought those hits were clean, in fact the Kuntz cross check is the only thing I thought the ref's really missed that was blatant. I know they could have called Gerber for roughing at least twice and did not, so I just dont get it.</I><BR/><BR/>I don't really get it either. By my eyes I didn't see anything too outrageous in that game's officiating, but judging from Sens fans' responses they sounded really outraged. I generally just chalk that stuff up to emotion, which Bryan Murray should probably leave to the fans to exhibit.Earl Sleekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15843720035500316419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-14440860281049793692008-03-06T08:42:00.000-08:002008-03-06T08:42:00.000-08:00In the past I hated watching us lose the game on a...In the past I hated watching us lose the game on a BS call, etc. <BR/><BR/>During the 2006 playoffs I witnessed what I thought was favoritism to Edmonton during thier run. San Jose getting shafted the most. Things like Icing being called on a very tired Edmonton team, then the Edmonton captian talking to the linesman and he changes his mind and takes the faceoff to center ice. I had not seen that until then, and have not since. But there was a ton of stuff like that in that seris.<BR/><BR/>I think the Ducks orginization just got tired of being the red-headed step child of the NHL and created a team that can win shorthanded. They are obviously comited to winning and have been for a long time, so it does not surprise me that they built a team like this. We still get questionable calls, but at lease the majority of them I can honestly say we earn. Either way I come away from the game without that bad taste that the game was handed to the other team anymore.<BR/><BR/>As for the Ottawa stuff, they seem to be very upset that we hit thier D every time we entered thier zone, I thought those hits were clean, in fact the Kuntz cross check is the only thing I thought the ref's really missed that was blatant. I know they could have called Gerber for roughing at least twice and did not, so I just dont get it.Mike in OChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01831933744838119160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-29813369203621334122008-03-06T08:03:00.000-08:002008-03-06T08:03:00.000-08:00doug weight is not the answer on the 2nd line by t...doug weight is not the answer on the 2nd line by the way...id prefer marchant in that role<BR/><BR/>weight is slow and ineffective seince hes been backAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-69771566650085550082008-03-06T07:50:00.000-08:002008-03-06T07:50:00.000-08:00Yeah, I should have pointed out that this piece is...Yeah, I should have pointed out that this piece isn't really a reaction to last night's game, as other than the score, I have a very vague notion of what happened.<BR/><BR/>I hadn't even read that 2-for-17 stat until just now, so wow.Earl Sleekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15843720035500316419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-6816555572246080082008-03-06T07:40:00.000-08:002008-03-06T07:40:00.000-08:0017 penalties on the ducks last nite and the ducks ...17 penalties on the ducks last nite and the ducks stil should have won...there problem is lack of execution on offense...could not for the life of them make a tape to tape pass...miss the net on open oppurtinities....there aim is atrocious...there bathroom floors at there homes must soaked in piss....cuz they cant fuckin aim right....they seem to overcome there aggressivness(2 for 17 on pk is pretty damn good)...but they never can over come themselves when there offense just sux balls...i dont think they should change a thing about there dirty play...they just need to convert some the many chances there getting on the offensive endAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com