tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post8196470769437042784..comments2024-01-06T07:18:43.593-08:00Comments on The Battle of California: Kings Gameday: For Eff's Sake....James Mirtlehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11221488913251638181noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-18088575139050438692007-11-28T17:57:00.000-08:002007-11-28T17:57:00.000-08:00Yeah, my only complaint about labels on Detroit an...Yeah, my only complaint about labels on Detroit and Ottawa is that they're always applied after-the-fact. Once they lose, it becomes easy to say they choked or couldn't handle the physical side of the game. But when they win series handily then they have become "veteran" or "cagey" or some other label. <BR/><BR/>It's not that being tough is valueless; it's just there are more important factors involved in winning.Earl Sleekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15843720035500316419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-74694569813183556622007-11-28T16:41:00.000-08:002007-11-28T16:41:00.000-08:00The knock against the Ottawa Senators for years ha...The knock against the Ottawa Senators for years has been that they are skilled enough to breeze thru the regular season, but not tough enough to win in the playoffs, same has been the case for the Red Wings since Bowman's departure. <BR/><BR/>A quote from my favorite hockey anaylyst Barry Melrose "In hockey, will beats skill."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-7127552562866124412007-11-28T15:08:00.000-08:002007-11-28T15:08:00.000-08:00That brings up another point: is Sammy Pahlsson co...<I>That brings up another point: is Sammy Pahlsson considered tough? </I><BR/><BR/>He will always hit harder than he gets hit, he's a pain in the ass along the boards, and he's unrelenting on his backcheck.<BR/><BR/>I'd say he's tough.Earl Sleekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15843720035500316419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-23755256299327337452007-11-28T14:32:00.000-08:002007-11-28T14:32:00.000-08:00And I think it's unfair to say the Senators lost b...<I>And I think it's unfair to say the Senators lost because they ran into a hammer; they ran into Sammy Pahlsson's line </I><BR/><BR/>Sami's Påhlssons line = hammer. <BR/>Go Ducks!bri-bothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09614802206217825396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-90929044698017278982007-11-28T11:16:00.000-08:002007-11-28T11:16:00.000-08:00I think you have to make a distinction between a t...I think you have to make a distinction between a team being "tough" and playing good defense. Both Chris Pronger and Rob Blake are tough; the difference is that Pronger plays good defense too. Brendan Witt is tough as hell, but he sucks at defense, so he's not as valuable. On the flip side, Lidstrom is softer than Charmin but he plays good defense, so he's valuable. There's more than one way to skin a cat. Also, why would you want to skin a cat? That's disgusting. <BR/><BR/>And I think it's unfair to say the Senators lost because they ran into a hammer; they ran into Sammy Pahlsson's line. That brings up another point: is Sammy Pahlsson considered tough? He doesn't get penalty minutes and he's not overly physical, but I think most people would say yes.RudyKellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05935847996131016457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-33784409472470669162007-11-28T10:53:00.000-08:002007-11-28T10:53:00.000-08:00haha good points on the last 2 comments fo shohaha good points on the last 2 comments fo shoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-84816006274651871242007-11-28T10:40:00.000-08:002007-11-28T10:40:00.000-08:00It's a tough sell to convince me that Klemm sucks ...It's a tough sell to convince me that Klemm sucks any more than Modry. I also agree with Ian, toughness does win games. Ottawa breezed thru the Easter Conference playoffs last year, but as soon as the Ducks put the hammer to them, they folded up. Toughness does have a place in hockey and the Kings need to find some desperately!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-35434112619352616192007-11-28T10:32:00.000-08:002007-11-28T10:32:00.000-08:00I'll respectfully disagree that the Duck's fightin...I'll respectfully disagree that the Duck's fighting had nothing to do with their success. Fighting won't win you a Cup, but toughness very well might.<BR/><BR/>A player like, oh, let's say, Datsyuk will (unconsciously?) pull back a little more along the boards, or in front of the net against a team like the Ducks. <BR/><BR/>Want a good indication that Pronger is on his game? Look at his penalty minutes. Elbowing, roughing, boarding, slashing, and fighting: good. Holding, interference, high-sticking: bad. If he's playing right at the very edge of legality, and occasionally going over the line (but not too often), he's being an effective player, like Scott Stevens.<BR/><BR/>If Pronger is playing like that, it's going to lead to fights, inevitably. And Datsyuk is going to be that much more careful when going into the corner against Pronger. He's off his game a little bit, and that's the difference between scoring and not scoring in the NHL.<BR/><BR/>Disclaimer: I f$*%&*ng hate Pronger, but he's damn good at what he does.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-36605080121841860952007-11-28T09:54:00.000-08:002007-11-28T09:54:00.000-08:00add:the rough stuff is really for the fans...burke...add:<BR/>the rough stuff is really for the fans...burke knows this and crafted his team that way...as far as detriot goes..( Ill look for the link) they had a poll and asked the fans of detriot what were 3 reasons your not going to the game. the 3 top answers were..somthing like the detriot economy..STYLE OF PLAY...I forgot the 3rd one..I think they miss the shanahan lapointe cicerelli mcarty days...<BR/><BR/>as far as ottawa goes well there candian so they love anyway its played...<BR/><BR/>point is and don cherry said it during the stanley cup final...americans love violence..hello the UFC is super popular...burke is catering to the people and its working<BR/><BR/>your right though it does nto impact the game..but its fun to watch!!<BR/><BR/>p.s. there showed the first ducks-kings game....crazy had gretzky and kurri...the grim reaper todd ewen...it was awesome they showed it after the kings-ducks gameAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-48118783460732431342007-11-28T09:51:00.000-08:002007-11-28T09:51:00.000-08:00If I had to rank it somewhere, I’d put it right be...<I>If I had to rank it somewhere, I’d put it right below Earl’s cartoons and right above George Parros’ moustache.</I><BR/><BR/>Don't underestimate the cartoons. I think they might have won three postseason games all by themselves.<BR/><BR/>As Spade has said, though, the importance of fighting becomes apparent when your team loses all the goddamn time. At least there's something to talk about the next day.Earl Sleekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15843720035500316419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-65972791243259512622007-11-28T09:49:00.000-08:002007-11-28T09:49:00.000-08:00Don't get me wrong, I love watching Ivanans fight ...Don't get me wrong, I love watching Ivanans fight and Brown laying the boom, it's one of my favorite parts of hockey. I just don't think it really has a big impact on the outcome of the game. <BR/><BR/>And I'm convince Chris Pronger only plays hockey so he can get those free cross checks. I think he'd rather do that all day than win another Cup.RudyKellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05935847996131016457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-6469422988931840012007-11-28T09:40:00.000-08:002007-11-28T09:40:00.000-08:00I actually agree with you (cue the home alone face...I actually agree with you (cue the home alone face) ...fighting and other shinneagans that ducks do didn't win the cup or help them this year...but as evidence in last nites game...it's sure provides great entertainment especially when my team starts sucking ass...I'd rather lose kicking some (insert team here) tail or getting a free cross check after (insert unsuspecting poor sapp here) scores a goal..than my team sucking ass and just skating around with there thumb up there ass...till the horn goes al la the kings....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-77386211800003823482007-11-28T09:07:00.000-08:002007-11-28T09:07:00.000-08:00play nagy.jon klemm has old balls.that is all.play nagy.<BR/><BR/>jon klemm has old balls.<BR/><BR/>that is all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com