tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post8158489881713573519..comments2024-01-06T07:18:43.593-08:00Comments on The Battle of California: BoC United: Schneider for TukonenJames Mirtlehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11221488913251638181noreply@blogger.comBlogger51125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-72740703498899449692008-07-17T18:45:00.000-07:002008-07-17T18:45:00.000-07:00No thanks on Tukonen. He's a bustNo thanks on Tukonen. He's a bust*ducks4cup*https://www.blogger.com/profile/15790556895439344593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-84926457233618296202008-07-11T14:00:00.000-07:002008-07-11T14:00:00.000-07:00Semi-off topic would be a great name for a blog.Semi-off topic would be a great name for a blog.PJ Swensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10263208264922939673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-74175849912380991052008-07-11T12:20:00.000-07:002008-07-11T12:20:00.000-07:00oops, I have two e's.oops, I have two e's.Sarahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04992490958149563644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-54080380572422573182008-07-11T12:18:00.000-07:002008-07-11T12:18:00.000-07:00I'm so totally late to this post (damn two day pow...I'm so totally late to this post (damn two day power outage!), and most of it is semi-off topic anyway, but...<BR/><BR/>The more I think about it, the more I am convinced that Schneider really is hard to trade (no matter what keeps being said here).<BR/><BR/>a) He's expensive and older <BR/><BR/>b) He's only got one year left on his current contract and has expressed his interest in staying (or returning again) to his offseason home and family in CA<BR/><BR/>c) Most of the teams in need of D have already gotten it elsewhere by now (i.e. Chicago, Ottawa, SJ), and have even paid way more for it<BR/><BR/>d) You said it Earl: "The Kings don't need this as bad as the Ducks." There is a lot in that statement. The Ducks are getting desperate and why would any team part with a prospect or pick to help out a competitor? <BR/><BR/>e) The NHL is a business. Sympathy trades are only in the minds of wishful thinking fans. Very rarely will a team take on an expensive player from another team as a favor. They will need to have a reason to actually make a trade, and "favors" aren't among them (especially when it is pretty much a known fact that the GM is only there for another year and won't be accountable for a returned favor)<BR/><BR/>e) If this GM piss-match has shown anything, it seems that NHL teams don't seem to like the Ducks very much. Thus, teams making a sacrifice (a prospect pick, or even just helping the Ducks maintain their strong roster) to get them out of the trouble they got themselves into wouldn't exactly be a high priority. Or at least for me, 'cause I'm a cold-hearted bitch and like to see jerks squirm.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Sorry for the novel... without power and the distraction of my beloved trash TV, I had time to read and take walks and think. GASP!Sarahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04992490958149563644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-64055130417336298182008-07-10T23:56:00.000-07:002008-07-10T23:56:00.000-07:00Glad to see the Kings are finally comparing themse...<I>Glad to see the Kings are finally comparing themselves to Nazis. I've been doing it for years.</I><BR/><BR/>Sorry to burst your bubble, but the Nazi comparison fits a lot better for the Ducks if you consider how the Ducks have a reputation for thuggery (kind of like the SA) and everyone here jokes about Burke's "racism" toward non-North Americans.<BR/><BR/>But, seriously, you've been comparing the Kings to Nazis? How does that make any sense?Alexander Dubcekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02687830440483865198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-83886062325879840342008-07-10T20:48:00.000-07:002008-07-10T20:48:00.000-07:00we got through itlife's rough. i tried to quit dr...<I>we got through it</I><BR/><BR/>life's rough. i tried to quit drinking right before our cup run in 2006. i had just come back from business in toronto for months and spent every night on the trip on a bar stool. let's just say my attempt was feasible at best. i was seriously panicking when they started talking about the beer shortage. thanks be to more truck drivers.<BR/><BR/>anyways,<BR/><BR/>ducks fans, if you promise not to stomp on me...i won't burn your child's cribs.heedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16519422093525975241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-69980097875597466822008-07-10T19:34:00.000-07:002008-07-10T19:34:00.000-07:00About the media coverage, Lowe is using some of Bu...About the media coverage, Lowe is using some of Burke's prior statements against him. <BR/><BR/>Before Anaheim's Cup winning season one of the biggest stories of the offseason was the Times reduction in coverage along with the NYT and Washington Post. All 3 papers have definitely bumped up their coverage, but in the LAT's case it was more a product of the Stanley Cup run instead of a new direction taken at the paper like the WP and NYT. <BR/><BR/>The LA Times, Tribune's largest paper is going to cut 250 jobs, 150 jobs in the print and online news departments. Much of it is spurred by advertising revenue moving online, but some genius believes slashing reporting is going to drive more advertising to LAT.com? Right. NHL teams are going to have to take some forward looking steps to increase coverage, and outside of hiring Adam Brady the Ducks are not that kind of team. At least not yet.PJ Swensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10263208264922939673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-24486068866123303942008-07-10T19:19:00.000-07:002008-07-10T19:19:00.000-07:00Yeah, I was joking about Obama being Muslim, but I...Yeah, I was joking about Obama being Muslim, but I guess either I suck at jokes or you guys are all stupid. I'm going to go with a little bit of column A and a little bit of column B.RudyKellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05935847996131016457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-87843752729318963512008-07-10T17:49:00.000-07:002008-07-10T17:49:00.000-07:00Of course without Rob Niedermayer's greatest chara...<I>Of course without Rob Niedermayer's greatest characteristic -- bloodline ties to all-star greatness -- but still, I'm all for this.</I><BR/><BR/>You never know. Tukonen could be Teemu's fourth cousin eight times removed. BTW, speaking of bloodlines and the Niedermayers, Jason Strudwick signed with the Oilers. Not only is Strudwick fortunate to have shared bloodlines with the great Scotty Niedermayer, but he's also related to Scott's brother ;) Aw, actually I really do appreciate Rob.<BR/><BR/>We're 10 days in the free agent signing season, and there doesn't seem to be a lot of interest in Schneider, at least for his or the Ducks' price, so maybe this is what the Ducks get. Although the Kings first round pick would be nice (wishing, pretty please). Do it Burkie!<BR/><BR/>Speaking of Burke, he sure does have the lawyerese down pat. That was a pretty good response to Lowe's rant. It's funny to see Burke as calm, rational one for a change. But then again he much of what he says is for effect and I don't think this was much different. Hey Burkie, as one of the "pathetic market" denizens---thanks for having our backs!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-33566674594118506002008-07-10T17:18:00.000-07:002008-07-10T17:18:00.000-07:00Half-smug, that is.I'm definitely smug about the D...Half-smug, that is.<BR/><BR/>I'm definitely smug about the Ducks playing into June. I'm a little less smug about the Ducks starting their season in September in London, but hey, we got through it.Earl Sleekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15843720035500316419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-85286277554748452532008-07-10T17:10:00.000-07:002008-07-10T17:10:00.000-07:00i'm sick of talking about hockey...i wanna start w...<I>i'm sick of talking about hockey...i wanna start watching it again.</I><BR/><BR/>Yeah, that itch hasn't hit me that hard just yet (quite possibly because we had the shortest offseason ever last year). However, if Schneider gets traded and Selanne signs tomorrow, then in my view the offseason will then be "over" and I'm sure I'll be right there with you.<BR/><BR/><I>ps the nhl couldn't prove tampering if it happened in the league office.</I><BR/><BR/>Agreed there. I'm not even sure if the league could prove that there was a lockout.Earl Sleekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15843720035500316419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-18709088805091914912008-07-10T17:05:00.000-07:002008-07-10T17:05:00.000-07:00agreed earl. i went back and listened to it again...agreed earl. i went back and listened to it again. i just wish this whole thing would go away. i just want the season to start. i'm sick of talking about hockey...i wanna start watching it again. although gary roberts was just on the local sports station, waxing about the good old days and the battle of alberta. that was some good talk.<BR/><BR/>ps the nhl couldn't prove tampering if it happened in the league office.heedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16519422093525975241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-65731949401500574552008-07-10T16:59:00.000-07:002008-07-10T16:59:00.000-07:00Obama is Christian, not Muslim.Well, Rudy doesn't ...<I>Obama is Christian, not Muslim.</I><BR/><BR/>Well, Rudy doesn't seem to be around, so I doctored it. RK--feel free to alter it back, if you are on an Obama-misinformation mission.<BR/><BR/><I>i just don't think lowe even suggested tampering.</I><BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=242532&lid=headline&lpos=topStory_nhl" REL="nofollow">Here</A> is Lowe's quote: "Don't even ask me about Scott Niedermayer, I've already lowered myself in terms of (talking about) how they acquired him. That's a story for another day, but they were able to bring Niedermayer and Pronger in and they won a Stanley Cup."<BR/><BR/>Like I said, not very clear, but he was talking about 2005.Earl Sleekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15843720035500316419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-9466440413478323552008-07-10T16:58:00.000-07:002008-07-10T16:58:00.000-07:00I would not call it painfull as much as hilarious....I would not call it painfull as much as hilarious. It really is pretty funny.<BR/><BR/>I think the innuendo was the thoery that Burke was tampering with Scott prior to FA through Rob.<BR/><BR/>i.e. Rob, talk your brother into joining us..Mike in OChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01831933744838119160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-66070410664150531582008-07-10T16:53:00.000-07:002008-07-10T16:53:00.000-07:00no one is going to argue about niedermeyer's effec...no one is going to argue about niedermeyer's effect on your team. i just don't think lowe even suggested tampering. that was brian's song. i figured it must be "team suspension" related since nothing was said at the time. who knows how this will end? i just hope it ends soon because listening to burke is painful. he seems to think he is part of the show which couldn't be further from the truth.heedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16519422093525975241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-36393027308204060612008-07-10T16:37:00.000-07:002008-07-10T16:37:00.000-07:00Heed, I think Lowe was pretty clear in his round t...Heed, I think Lowe was pretty clear in his round that he was talking about the lockout signing of Niedermayer, and Burke has spelled it out fairly cleanly also. What I don't really understand is what the actual accusation was (all Lowe gave was some innuendo).<BR/><BR/>As for last year, I have a different read on whether the Niedermayer semi-retirement "worked". The guy didn't retire, and he's going to be in uniform this year, and that alone tells me "success". The team was drastically improved upon his return, and enabled a more expensive team to hit the playoffs than could be afforded for 82 games.<BR/><BR/>Sure, there wasn't a cup at the end of the road, but that's an awfully luck-based measure. Niedermayer wasn't the problem for the postseason Ducks; Pronger returning from suspension and Perry returning from injury were much bigger factors.<BR/><BR/>If you want to see the Scott effect, <A HREF="http://battleofcalifornia.blogspot.com/2008/04/mr-incredible.html" REL="nofollow">this post</A> is my go-to on how Scott's return impacted the team.Earl Sleekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15843720035500316419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-63915040207842240912008-07-10T16:30:00.001-07:002008-07-10T16:30:00.001-07:00i'm not so sure it was the niedermeyer signing tha...i'm not so sure it was the niedermeyer signing that was at issue. part of me thinks he may be referring to the "team suspension" last year. that whole affair stank to high heaven. who knows? who cares? it didn't work.heedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16519422093525975241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-65111900608340785162008-07-10T16:30:00.000-07:002008-07-10T16:30:00.000-07:00Obama is Christian, not Muslim.I just re-read that...<I>Obama is Christian, not Muslim.</I><BR/><BR/>I just re-read that caption with Christian in place of Muslin and came away with the exact same impression...Mike in OChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01831933744838119160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-50306526647214364342008-07-10T16:27:00.000-07:002008-07-10T16:27:00.000-07:00Heh, it's cool, Mike. At least I know I'm not the...Heh, it's cool, Mike. At least I know I'm not the only one possibly overthinking this set of comments.<BR/><BR/><I>How can you hate that guy? (Unless your in his gun sights, like Lowe an co.)</I><BR/><BR/>No kidding. He might be an overrated GM, but we're certainly not cheated out of any entertainment.Earl Sleekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15843720035500316419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-36464701623518678982008-07-10T16:24:00.000-07:002008-07-10T16:24:00.000-07:00beat me to it again Earl. I have to type faster. ...beat me to it again Earl. I have to type faster. (or at least refresh the comments before I hit submit)Mike in OChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01831933744838119160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-78768084362213782092008-07-10T16:23:00.000-07:002008-07-10T16:23:00.000-07:00If you think about it Burke took a shot at both Lo...If you think about it Burke took a shot at both Lowe and Bettman.<BR/><BR/>Now everyone wants to see how Bettman rules on his 2 new issues. <BR/><BR/>How can you hate that guy? (Unless your in his gun sights, like Loe an co.)Mike in OChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01831933744838119160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-64366716754628640812008-07-10T16:21:00.000-07:002008-07-10T16:21:00.000-07:00Does anyone get the feeling that Burke is also try...Does anyone get the feeling that Burke is also trying to stick it to the NHL for interfering in this feud, too?<BR/><BR/>I mean, from the sounds of it, there are two new investigations Burkie has called for here (the ridiculous Perry tampering and the Scott UFA signing), plus whatever review this set of comments needs to go through.<BR/><BR/>Is he putting Gary and his boys to work, as a message to get off his back?Earl Sleekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15843720035500316419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-64600966982610616002008-07-10T16:15:00.000-07:002008-07-10T16:15:00.000-07:00who needs a squirrel when you already have a nut?who needs a squirrel when you already have a nut?heedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16519422093525975241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-24136585994275453632008-07-10T16:11:00.000-07:002008-07-10T16:11:00.000-07:00Because clearly Kevin Lowe was the defining reason...Because clearly Kevin Lowe was the defining reason the Oilers won those cups. Plus, Lowe hasn't won any as a GM. Thats like Neil Armstrong bragging to a Lockheed engineer that he's more badass at building space shuttles because he's been on the moon. On the other hand, that makes no sense.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11326372020195971504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-24592561589745293612008-07-10T16:10:00.000-07:002008-07-10T16:10:00.000-07:00not until you forsake all that is good and holy ca...not until you forsake all that is good and holy can you truly learn from the dark lord.heedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16519422093525975241noreply@blogger.com