tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post4864316008501541239..comments2024-01-06T07:18:43.593-08:00Comments on The Battle of California: Brad May: Do I really have to root for this a$$hole?James Mirtlehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11221488913251638181noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-45403463289593208112009-10-01T13:32:46.921-07:002009-10-01T13:32:46.921-07:00I'm pro-fighting. Just anti-sucker-punch.I'm pro-fighting. Just anti-sucker-punch.Earl Sleekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15843720035500316419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-84224534827350734072009-10-01T13:25:55.641-07:002009-10-01T13:25:55.641-07:00For heavens sake, fighting is a great part of hock...For heavens sake, fighting is a great part of hockey.<br /><br />Grow a pair or don't watch.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-85688420928964094552008-04-16T20:30:00.000-07:002008-04-16T20:30:00.000-07:00What's wrong with you? This is part of the game, a...What's wrong with you? This is part of the game, and has been for, most likely, long before you were watching the sport. In the golden years, would you be critizing Gordie Howe? If you don't like this kind of thing, go watch bantam hockey, or women's hockey, both of which feature the finesse of the game without the rough stuff.<BR/>The solution to this isn't suspensions, it's having Minnesota send someone to clean up on Brad May next time they meet. Ultimately, the hit was cheap, but it wasn't an ugly act like we've seen in other venues in the past. Part of the problem is Johnsson skating into a scrum when he had no business playing with the big boys.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-69927376651395009062008-03-27T19:02:00.000-07:002008-03-27T19:02:00.000-07:00I'm a lawyer in Phoenix trying to collect a judgme...I'm a lawyer in Phoenix trying to collect a judgment my client obtained against the "gutless puke of a thug" Brad May when May, drunk, punched my client, a uniformed sheriff's deputy, at a Scottsdale, Arizona nightclub, in 2002. <BR/> May is dodging the judgment (only about $30,000), and claims to be a resident of Canada. Does anybody know if he actually lives in Anaheim? Does he still do his golf tournament in Phoenix? Any information on May's "residency" would be most appreciated. <BR/> Dan Treon dbt@treonshook.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-79899165533415340762007-05-03T08:12:00.000-07:002007-05-03T08:12:00.000-07:00Maybe it's a canadian thing. It seemed that most c...<I>Maybe it's a canadian thing. It seemed that most canucks fans immediately forgave Bertuzzi for his punch on Moore, and cheered him on the whole time.</I><BR/><BR/>No, its a hometeam thing. Why do you think San Fransisco is the one city in America that doesn't boo Barry Bonds?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-84776636733746300402007-04-30T16:06:00.000-07:002007-04-30T16:06:00.000-07:00I haven't heard! Oh well. I'm tired of arguing. It...I haven't heard! <BR/><BR/>Oh well. I'm tired of arguing. It's been fun, though!Sean Zandberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16367951232268606248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-54633370412123251002007-04-29T23:44:00.000-07:002007-04-29T23:44:00.000-07:00Zan - Please tell me I'm not the first to ask. Pl...Zan - Please tell me I'm not the first to ask. Please tell me that the talking heads, even (shudder) Cherry has asked something similar.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-46881603147946223722007-04-29T16:54:00.000-07:002007-04-29T16:54:00.000-07:00"but I have to ask the question, what was Johnsson..."but I have to ask the question, what was Johnsson doing skating into that scrum in the first place?"<BR/><BR/>Good question!Sean Zandberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16367951232268606248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-36342276011992680052007-04-29T15:23:00.000-07:002007-04-29T15:23:00.000-07:00Earl, I agree that it should have been a longer su...Earl, I agree that it should have been a longer suspension, but I don't think that May meant to knock him out. Here's the video of the incident:<BR/><BR/>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4FIT0ifH2w<BR/><BR/>You'll see that they both come together and then May gives him the shot. I'm pretty sure he didn't realize that Johnsson was knocked out when he ragdolled him.<BR/><BR/>In any event, I don't have to like a player to root for him on my club. I don't have any particular affection for Pronger, either, but I'll cheer for him. I hope Brad May does Brad May things and gets under Vancouver's skin.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-66532452613585226592007-04-29T12:43:00.000-07:002007-04-29T12:43:00.000-07:00I guess I should clarify my place a bit (not that ...I guess I should clarify my place a bit (not that anyone will care): Pro-fighting, anti-idiot. Simple as that.<BR/><BR/>I don't like May because I don't like May, not because of this punch, another punch, things he said once, or his poor play. It's all of that together and more. I hated having him on the Avalanche, and don't think he belongs in the NHL, mostly because he isn't that good of a player. I don't like Sean Avery, but he has been playing better with the Rangers lately. May hasn't. <BR/><BR/>Zan - The media takes the easy way out, and in a sport that recieves little attention, something like the May punch, McLennan slash and other crap will be all they see. It makes headlines because it's easy. When the NHL becomes a serious draw in America again (which it will), there will be less negative headlines, because they will be pushed out by what the people will want to see, which is real hockey news.<BR/><BR/>Sleek - <BR/><I>Honestly, these type of incidents don't alarm you? Chris Simon, Jamie McClennan, and Brad May get to be this year's headlines? </I><BR/><BR/>You bet they do. While the NHL gets rid of fighting, it seems like the stupid stuff increases. <BR/><BR/>But I don't reallyy know what type of incident this was. When I first saw the punch, I didn't see what the problem was. It was the angle, what was off screen, all of that. I don't think May should have thrown a punch, probably just grabbed Johnsson and danced a little until things calmed down, but I have to ask the question, what was Johnsson doing skating into that scrum in the first place?<BR/><BR/>I'm not blaming Johnsson for putting his face into May's reach, but there are sticks and gloves on the ice, a broo-haa-haa going down, and Johnsson skates into the fray? Why? What was that going to serve? Even without recognizing that Brad May is the one between him and a cheap seat for the fight, what was "a career non-fighter with a concussion history" going to do in that situation? <BR/><BR/>I don't like May, but there could have been a better choice on both players parts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-8159810634564592722007-04-29T12:16:00.000-07:002007-04-29T12:16:00.000-07:00"Honestly, these type of incidents don't alarm you..."Honestly, these type of incidents don't alarm you? Chris Simon, Jamie McClennan, and Brad May get to be this year's headlines?"<BR/><BR/>What a alarms me more about that is that the media chooses to hype the shit out of those incidences and makes them the headlines of the year. <BR/>My headlines would be Vancouver's suprising success, the Flyer's cellar-dwelling, Crosby's record, etc.<BR/><BR/>Hey I agree with you guys if Johnsson did nothing at all to deserve that shot. Once again, we didn't see everything on tape. It could have been something that happened 2, 3, 4 periods or even games ago. We don't know exactly. PERHAPS something did happen. I can't see why else May only got 3 games. That's all I'm saying.<BR/><BR/>"International championship hockey sure doesn't suffer any letdowns in intensity or quality without the presence of goons and enforcers."<BR/><BR/>Oh yeah, buddy, you and the media are going to get your way. The NHL is going that route already. And the good old rough, tough, and sometimes violent NHL that I have loved my whole life will suffer for it. <BR/>Don't be so sensitive! Things happen in the heat of the moment. Guys that fuck up get penalized, end of story. Don't call for their heads on a fucking platter, because to me, that is over reacting. <BR/><BR/>By the way, May calling out for Steve Moore's head was only bad because he said it to the media and you heard it. Don't think that these guys don't say that shit behind closed doors on a regular basis!<BR/><BR/>I have an idea. Let's all go out for beers with Brad May and talk to him about it. Let's hear his side of the story. We'll kiss and make up and then go back to enjoying hockey.Sean Zandberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16367951232268606248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-33086682165398573412007-04-29T09:48:00.000-07:002007-04-29T09:48:00.000-07:00Maybe Johnsson sticked him or something like that?...<I>Maybe Johnsson sticked him or something like that?</I><BR/><BR/>The video TSN showed before Game 5 (when the pre-game scrum broke out) says no. More to the point, his gloves were on, and he has a reputation for not being a thug. I'm failing to see a scenario where that was justified. I'm pro-fighting, and to an extent pro-goon (shit like Hextall flying out of his crease to deck Chelios amuses the hell out of me), but I've got no respect for that. I was actually happy to hear that Boogaard crossed the line at the pre-game and tried to send a message, because <I>that's what you do</I>.Doogie2Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14703778878103452453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-33931701757832567912007-04-29T07:11:00.000-07:002007-04-29T07:11:00.000-07:00Johnsson said something to May, and that's worthy ...Johnsson said something to May, and that's worthy of being knocked out? What world do you live in, Zanstorm? Ulf Samuelsson is one side of the coin, a cheapshotter who got what was coming to him--but Kim Johnsson is one of the cleanest players in the entire NHL, a perennial Lady Byng-type of player. <BR/><BR/>To fight a non-fighter is a lowly act for an NHL enforcer. The only justifications for doing something like this would be in retaliation for egregiously offensive stickwork or for an over-the-top hit that was intended to injure another player. Johnsson has never been that type of player.<BR/><BR/>International championship hockey sure doesn't suffer any letdowns in intensity or quality without the presence of goons and enforcers. Maybe it is time to limit fighting to designated players in the league--guys can sign fighting agreements with the league when they sign their first contract.....and each team can stock one of these criminals in skates and pads to pound on each other.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-64769146206061301182007-04-29T06:37:00.000-07:002007-04-29T06:37:00.000-07:00Sure, Zan. There's many things we don't know. Bu...Sure, Zan. There's many things we don't know. But I don't think the Ulf Samuelsson connection is fair; Kim Johnsson taking a punch would be comparable to a Mattias Ohlund or a Scott Niedermayer taking a punch and getting knocked out of the series.<BR/><BR/>Honestly, these type of incidents don't alarm you? Chris Simon, Jamie McClennan, and Brad May get to be this year's headlines?Earl Sleekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15843720035500316419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-82720744834059189522007-04-29T00:24:00.000-07:002007-04-29T00:24:00.000-07:00What code? We don't even know exactly what happend...What code? We don't even know exactly what happended out there! What if Johnsson called May's mom a whore? What if he said something to justify a shot in the chops? We don't know that! Obviously, something happened at that meeting between May and NHL authorities in order for a seemingly minimal 3-game suspension to go down. Because, yeah, May was handed a 20-game suspension for slashing Heinze in the face 7 years ago. He is a repeat offender.<BR/>I don't feel overly bad for Johnsson for 2 reasons.<BR/>1. He could have done something to <BR/>May or another Duck earlier snd deserved retribution. We don't know for sure.<BR/>2. The fact that he missed the rest of the series is skewed because of the anal doctor's orders for playing with 'concussions' nowadays. It's more of a precautionary thing. I'm sure Johnsson was walking around and laughing soon afterwards. The images only create sensationalism! :) haha, there I said it.<BR/><BR/>I can remember when Domi sucker punched Ulfie Samuelsson years back. Sure, it was cruel, and Ulfie lay KO'd on the ice. But that piece of shit was kneeing guys for years and dishing out cheapshots himself, and refused to fight. He ended Cam Neeley's career for Christsakes!<BR/>That labelled Domi as an assailant, yes. But god dammit it was justified!<BR/>Maybe Johnsson did something...<BR/>if not, then I am in agreement with you. I just have to think that we don't know the whole story for May to only get 3 games. <BR/>That means I am also trusting the NHL's judgement!Sean Zandberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16367951232268606248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-17463023377861727092007-04-28T20:15:00.000-07:002007-04-28T20:15:00.000-07:00Oh, for the record, I am not anti-fighting in the ...Oh, for the record, I am not anti-fighting in the least.<BR/><BR/>I can put up with Boogaard punching out Fedoruk--it sucks, but both guys were willing and capable fighters.<BR/><BR/>But I can't put up with May punching out Johnsson--he'd never been in an NHL fight, and May for that matter has yet to get in a real NHL fight I can recall for the Ducks. He's an agitator, fine. He's an assailant, not so fine.<BR/><BR/>There's gotta be a code, and there's gotta be a line. May's crossed it too many damn times.Earl Sleekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15843720035500316419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-3678258370685042732007-04-28T19:52:00.000-07:002007-04-28T19:52:00.000-07:00"The NHL doesn't want fighting, but likes to have ..."The NHL doesn't want fighting, but likes to have $#!+ disturbers of this extreme caliber around, as evidenced by the light sentence. I would be fine with a change in attitude."<BR/><BR/>I'd like to see fighting stay in the game. But if it is being eliminated, then guys like May do have to go, I agree.<BR/><BR/>Other than that, you guys are over reacting I think. Get over the sucker punch already. There are other players on your team(s) that I'm sure have thrown a cheap shot, speared someone, boarded a player, or did something else to injure someone. I don't see you judging them. Or maybe you have just forgotten...<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>Maybe it's a canadian thing. It seemed that most canucks fans immediately forgave Bertuzzi for his punch on Moore, and cheered him on the whole time. <BR/><BR/>Those pics don't make me feel disturbed at all. Not until I see what Johnsson did to provoke May (if he did anything.)<BR/><BR/>Earl, I am pro-goon. I am old-school. I like violence and retribution. My opinions are not going to please any commenters here.Sean Zandberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16367951232268606248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-34994501925176973282007-04-28T18:19:00.000-07:002007-04-28T18:19:00.000-07:00Greetings from Detroit... I came across your blog ...Greetings from Detroit... I came across your blog and I have to say you are dead on with this posting.<BR/><BR/>You also pretty much nailed the mixed emotions I have watching Todd Bertuzzi play for the Wings. It is tough to cheer for someone you can't stand playing for your team.<BR/><BR/>I guess it is like the old bit from "Seinfeld", we are really just cheering for the uniforms.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-87299749249815324352007-04-28T17:57:00.000-07:002007-04-28T17:57:00.000-07:00Have to agree with Tapeleg, I hated the fact that ...Have to agree with Tapeleg, I hated the fact that the Avs signed May and was overjoyed that he was traded away, even if it took way too long and all we got was Scott Parker.<BR/><BR/>I think a lot of fans have trouble distinguishing actual enforcers like Ian Laperriere or Donald Brashear and mindless thugs like Boogard and May. Guys who can't play hockey worth a damn and only exist to hurt people.<BR/><BR/>The easiest way to get guys like May out of the league are to do what he encouraged Bertuzzi to do to Steve Moore. Other than that, I can't think of anything, unfortunately. The GMs don't seem to mind them too much.Dear Lord Stanleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10000974760956373639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-40376291899186490652007-04-28T17:37:00.000-07:002007-04-28T17:37:00.000-07:00Believe me when I say, I feel your pain. I hated ...Believe me when I say, I feel your pain. I hated having the guy play for the Avs. I didn't like Jim Cummins, but I hated Brad May. Sorry you have to deal with him. <BR/><BR/>I wish I had a solution to get the Brad Mays out of the league. But every time you see another one come on the scene, he's just "doing his job." It's an attitude problem. The NHL doesn't want fighting, but likes to have $#!+ disturbers of this extreme caliber around, as evidenced by the light sentence. I would be fine with a change in attitude.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-63664964543399428012007-04-28T17:06:00.000-07:002007-04-28T17:06:00.000-07:00Well you are talking about 'evidence.' What if Joh...Well you are talking about 'evidence.' What if Johnsson did something to anger May into punching him? I'd rather see a lot more footage before making an accusation. Maybe Johnsson sticked him or something like that? All i know is that if Johnsson did something like that, I wouldn't give a rat's f**k about his concussion problems...i'd lay his ass out.<BR/>But I don't know EVERYTHING that happened.<BR/>Hey, you'll like May against Vancouver. He'd play hard against his former team.Sean Zandberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16367951232268606248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-32585798147174916532007-04-28T13:00:00.000-07:002007-04-28T13:00:00.000-07:00I never really much liked May as a Canuck, and I d...I never really much liked May as a Canuck, and I don't get Burke's love affair with the guy.<BR/><BR/>He doesn't score<BR/>He doesn't defend that well<BR/>He can hit, yes, but not as frequently as he should<BR/>He can fight, but he's not a heavyweight by any stretch<BR/><BR/>He's pretty useless other than some hitting and thuggish behaviour. Honestly, as lease a guy like Parros provides something tangible.<BR/><BR/>It didn't help that May was earning a cool $1mil+ a year when Burke signed him. (I can't even remember the total now, but it was obscene)<BR/><BR/>OK, so you want May. Fine...but why pay so much for so little? <BR/><BR/>His teammates seems to love him, for what it's worth.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16882752106662170837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-24117183204693949902007-04-28T12:21:00.000-07:002007-04-28T12:21:00.000-07:00I actually posted a video that shows the punch. It...I actually posted a video that shows the punch. It is shot at Johnsson's back, but you can see the force that May hits him with.<BR/><BR/>http://www.ducksblog.net/2007/04/20/wild-wild-west/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-10662649739769904322007-04-28T11:57:00.000-07:002007-04-28T11:57:00.000-07:00And it's not like May is a first time offender, ei...And it's not like May is a first time offender, either. Hell, he's also being sued by Steve Moore for his involvement in the Todd Bertuzzi incident. <BR/>Three games was a joke.<BR/>Considering the fact that the next season after the attack he wound up playing in Colorado, it wouldn't surprise me to see him in Minnesota next season.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com