tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post3544833675349920191..comments2024-01-06T07:18:43.593-08:00Comments on The Battle of California: The 16-Game Sniff Test: How do the Sharks measure up?James Mirtlehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11221488913251638181noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-82507108391232313872008-11-11T23:18:00.000-08:002008-11-11T23:18:00.000-08:00Bravo, Sleek. Your statistical analysis amazes aga...Bravo, Sleek. Your statistical analysis amazes again.brokeyardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09375063373661364274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-3465399989301989552008-11-11T21:21:00.000-08:002008-11-11T21:21:00.000-08:00My totally unscientific barometer of success this ...<I>My totally unscientific barometer of success this year: the play of Patrick Marleau.</I><BR/><BR/>Don't sell yourself short; spreadsheets can tell a biased tale, but there's no substitute for eyeball accounts. I honestly haven't seen that many Sharks games, other than the game I was at (and I never get the best view when in attendance).<BR/><BR/>The Sharks are certainly killing the spreadsheets again tonight. Poor Dan Ellis, will he have to face 20+ shots in the third period also?Earl Sleekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15843720035500316419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-58630992568067967822008-11-11T20:25:00.000-08:002008-11-11T20:25:00.000-08:00My totally unscientific barometer of success this ...My totally unscientific barometer of success this year: the play of Patrick Marleau. <BR/><BR/>Notoriously streaky throughout his career, he's on a more consistent point-per-game clip. There's less reliance on Joe Thornton to create offensive opportunity and Marleau's consistently playing with the drive that we saw in the playoffs.<BR/><BR/>I'll try to remember how Marleau's doing at Game 32 to see if my guess has any correlation.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14641890886753254018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-3884890939038365392008-11-11T16:42:00.000-08:002008-11-11T16:42:00.000-08:00As a Sharks fan I want to read EVERYTHING into our...As a Sharks fan I want to read EVERYTHING into our record setting 16 game start. However the numbers don't always make sense.<BR/><BR/>Two years ago the Sharks had 22 points through 16 games, just 4 less than this year. The result - exit Round 2.<BR/><BR/>Last year was one of the Shark's worst starts but they still ended the season with a record 108 points. The result - exit Round 2.<BR/><BR/>What can you conclude from all this? Not much...<BR/><BR/>I crunched the numbers here <A HREF="http://penaltykill.net/blogs/just-how-good-are-the-san-jose-sharks/" REL="nofollow">on my blog.</A>sfguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06833633477581795919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-82887769205965102172008-11-11T16:36:00.000-08:002008-11-11T16:36:00.000-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.sfguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06833633477581795919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-31130008582035171482008-11-11T13:34:00.000-08:002008-11-11T13:34:00.000-08:00Besides, parades are way overrated. Have a parkin...Besides, parades are way overrated. Have a parking lot festival like the Ducks did; I had a blast at that event.Earl Sleekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15843720035500316419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-81775218838021965852008-11-11T13:32:00.000-08:002008-11-11T13:32:00.000-08:00I said after game 1 to star planning the parade an...<EM>I said after game 1 to star planning the parade and anyone who doesn't feel the same can stay home!</EM><BR/><BR/>Hold them horses Papa! :)Mr. Plankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17643832814073704400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-15706006250576648072008-11-11T13:12:00.000-08:002008-11-11T13:12:00.000-08:00As a Sharks fan since the Cow Palace days I can re...As a Sharks fan since the Cow Palace days I can remember when Bay Area fans were excited by any of the 11 wins in a season. As time has gone on the team has improved and for the last few years fans, including myself, have said "This is our year." But I've never truly felt it before. The few games I've gone to at the Tank this year have a different feel. I said after game 1 to star planning the parade and anyone who doesn't feel the same can stay home!Aces Papahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11691651695854768855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-10331721857754572452008-11-11T10:22:00.000-08:002008-11-11T10:22:00.000-08:00Ah, true, true. But by then we are moving away fr...Ah, true, true. But by then we are moving away from trends and instead recording facts.<BR/><BR/>Not that there's anything wrong with that (I'll get into that eventually this spring), but I think there's ample web space to talk about both.Earl Sleekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15843720035500316419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-60034304156445531272008-11-11T10:16:00.000-08:002008-11-11T10:16:00.000-08:00good point Sleek. But I was more referring to the...good point Sleek. But I was more referring to the last 16-28 games also known as the playoffs...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-62231479695253708432008-11-11T09:26:00.000-08:002008-11-11T09:26:00.000-08:00It's not about the first 16 games, its about the l...<I>It's not about the first 16 games, its about the last 16.</I><BR/><BR/>I'm generally a believer in this statement as well, but it's hard to imagine a better 20-game stretch to end a season than the Sharks had last year.<BR/><BR/>The Sharks (16-2-2) and Ducks (15-4-1) had the best records for the final 20 games last season, and both were ousted by Dallas (9-9-2), so it's certainly not foolproof. Meanwhile Detroit won a cup with a 10th-best 12-6-2 final stretch.Earl Sleekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15843720035500316419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-30496983190948365842008-11-11T09:20:00.000-08:002008-11-11T09:20:00.000-08:00It's not about the first 16 games, its about the l...It's not about the first 16 games, its about the last 16. A Sharks fan that has called it 'our year' every year for the last ten isn't making any predictions. I have high expectations for a team that finally has the right leader. <BR/><BR/>And they are in line with what they always say, "Win em at home, split em on the road!"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-62687945996739926252008-11-11T09:13:00.000-08:002008-11-11T09:13:00.000-08:00And certainly, the point of this post is not to pl...And certainly, the point of this post is not to plan any parades -- sniff test is nothing but an arbitrary measure.<BR/><BR/>Still, I thought it was worth bringing up. It's been five years / four seasons since a Stanley Cup winner didn't have a stunning start to the year, and certainly the Sharks have met that possibly-meaningful challenge the early part of this season.<BR/><BR/>I'll tell you, though, when the Ducks started their season 12-0-4 two years ago, that put a lot of swagger in my step the rest of the season. Might want to try it, it's kind of fun.Earl Sleekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15843720035500316419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-38799746034782869842008-11-11T08:45:00.000-08:002008-11-11T08:45:00.000-08:00Certainly paints different picture. While I am qui...Certainly paints different picture. <BR/><BR/>While I am quite happy that the Sharks are off to a fantastic start, I'm not willing to plan any parades after 16 games.Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10220448812074695556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-71267927182123986772008-11-11T08:09:00.000-08:002008-11-11T08:09:00.000-08:00A fair question, and only one I can really answer ...A fair question, and only one I can really answer since the lockout.<BR/><BR/>Here were the top five teams after sixteen games in each season (points, then wins):<BR/><BR/>0506:<BR/>Detroit 13-2-1 27 pts<BR/>Ottawa 13-3-0 26 pts<BR/>Nashville 11-2-3 25 pts<BR/>Carolina 12-3-1 25 pts<BR/>Montreal 12-3-1 25 pts<BR/><BR/>0607:<BR/>Buffalo 14-1-1 29 pts<BR/>Anaheim 12-0-4 28 pts<BR/>Dallas 12-4-0 24 pts<BR/>Atlanta 10-3-3 23 pts<BR/>Nashville 11-4-1 23 pts<BR/>Detroit 11-4-1 23 pts<BR/><BR/>0708:<BR/>Ottawa 14-2-0 28 pts<BR/>Detroit 13-2-1 27 pts<BR/>Colorado 10-5-1 21 pts<BR/>Carolina 9-4-3 21 pts<BR/>Montreal 9-4-3 21 pts<BR/><BR/>So yeah, it's hit-and-miss, but there's some cup finalists and conference finalists mixed in there as well, as well as some serious duds.Earl Sleekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15843720035500316419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27850362.post-19044911239300143042008-11-11T07:55:00.000-08:002008-11-11T07:55:00.000-08:00How many strong starts that didn't win Cups are be...How many strong starts that didn't win Cups are being ignored to present more favorable data? I ask that in all seriousness.Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10220448812074695556noreply@blogger.com