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Ah, that makes sense. No, the only goalie we typi...

2008-05-06T15:31:56.876-07:00

Ah, that makes sense. No, the only goalie we typically bash on this site goes by the name Dan Cloutier.

Or whoever happens to be in L.A.'s crease that day.

Not necessarily talking about you guys, in general...

2008-05-06T15:28:32.343-07:00

Not necessarily talking about you guys, in general the blogs have been a-buzz with the Red Wings dire goaltending situation. Going into the Colorado series all we heard about was how great Jose Theodore was and what a liability Osgood was

My bottom line is that I don't see where all the o...

2008-05-06T15:21:27.016-07:00

My bottom line is that I don't see where all the osgood hate comes from, he's played well this year.

Not to be obtuse, but what Osgood hate are you talking about? I think most everyone's agreed that in games that matter (everything but the ASG) he's been more than fine.

Judging a goalie based on all star game performanc...

2008-05-06T15:14:33.154-07:00

Judging a goalie based on all star game performance is goofy.

Osgood has been pretty solid for the most part these playoffs. Has he been better than Turco? I dunno, they've both been fairly good. My bottom line is that I don't see where all the osgood hate comes from, he's played well this year.

Advantage definitely goes to Turco, he's been bril...

2008-05-06T13:10:41.389-07:00

Advantage definitely goes to Turco, he's been brilliant in the last two series against the Ducks and Sharks. It's funny to be talking about the Stars on this site after they took out both Californian teams in the playoffs.

It's sort of difficult to gauge how big of a factor Osgood needs to be though- like you mentioned Detroit's D is solid and their puck possession game squeezes the life out of an offense. What it comes down to is putting more pucks in the net than they did against San Jose- on average they scored a goal every 31 minutes of play. Now that mammoth game six may have a lot to do with it, but the way I see it Turco is going to have to be a whole lot better than Osgood in order to have a date with Lord Stanley.

Turco is better than Osgood, but the Red Wings do ...

2008-05-06T13:01:26.500-07:00

Turco is better than Osgood, but the Red Wings do such a great job limiting opportunities and nice shots that it doesn't really matter. If you can get chances on Osgood, you can beat him.

And Osgood was atrocious during the All-Star game, but he wasn't as big a disgrace as Nabokov. Poke-checking during a trick shot contest? Disgraceful.

Believe me, whenever the Stars play the Wings, tho...

2008-05-06T11:29:32.063-07:00

Believe me, whenever the Stars play the Wings, those of us in Dallas get to hear ALL about Turco's record ad nauseum. It's like the Dallas media can't wait to say how "horrible" he is against Detroit.

And for the most part, he HAS played sub-par against them. But what goalie has ever dominated the Wings? I generally believe things tend to even out and he may be on the upside of getting that record back near .500. He shutout the Wings at home this year. There was also that interesting year in 2003 where they tied all 4 games they played. He's also missed out on 2 of the road wins in Detroit recently because of goalie rotations. To be fair, Mike Smith played one game because A) they wanted to throw him in the fire or B) they didn't want Turco to absorb another L.......take your pick.

Either way, I don't think Turco has been in any way terrible against them, but I do believe this is another monkey the Stars have a chance to cast off their backs. The way he's playing now gets me revved up about his confidence and his chances.

Big goaltending advantage Stars. Turco takes a lo...

2008-05-06T09:48:37.893-07:00

Big goaltending advantage Stars. Turco takes a lot of crap I think. But there aren't too many goalies in the NHL I'd rather have on my team than Turco. Add with his puck plaing ability, and I really don't know who I like better than him aside from Luongo or Broduer.

I would like to point out how incredibly awful Osg...

2008-05-06T09:31:15.521-07:00

I would like to point out how incredibly awful Osgood was at this year’s all-star game. He was bad. I always thought of him as a good goalie, not a great one, but good while he was in his prime, now, I think he is suspect.

Wings have the team speed to beat the Dallas game, but if Osgood is not playing very good, read: slightly above average, Dallas will beat them.

I think Dallas is way better than Nashville, and they almost beat this years wings. That should count for something as well. (I am not sure what though)

Any fighter of Roy is a friend of mine.

2008-05-06T07:20:41.818-07:00

Any fighter of Roy is a friend of mine.

FYI the Osgood goal in question was a center ice s...

2008-05-06T07:02:12.183-07:00

FYI the Osgood goal in question was a center ice shot by Jamie Langenbrunner in OT of game 5 of the '98 western conference finals. He also got beat from center ice by Al MacInnis the previous round to send a game to OT, which the Wings ended up winning.

Agreed that Osgood has always had the rep of being fortunate to have played for the Wings all these years, but in fairness, he did help get the Islanders and Blues to the playoffs when he played there, and has put together a pretty good NHL career.